@noxin

pain · Post by **pain** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 12:26 am

unfortunately I've got major doubts whether anyone in HsD will decide to restart if their chars/houses are gone

Maybe they will as there is no decent aos alternative, but it's unlikely.

Crest Lavender · Post by **Crest Lavender** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 12:29 am

bellend wrote:Some very experienced player ran players gave you serious advice and you through it back in their face because they didnt come from OSI.

I assume you dont mean yourself by this, because i cant really remember a serious and half decent post from you.

bellend wrote: You were told if you dont keep the players happy then will leave and tell everyone they meet not to play there, but you took no noitce and look what happened?

A lot of players were happy, it were the players who demand things and otherwise would (and did) bitch arround that caused some problems. Unfortunately they didnt leave. Make these players happy would definately be the wrong thing to do. Legacy was not ment to be a clone of some other freeshards who follow that rule!

bellend wrote: I can see your intentions were good but you were trying to create the perfect uo in a select group of peoples eyes. The bola removal for example was complete bullshit, because a few select people complained you removed them within 24 hours with no intention to ever re-add them.

This select group of peoples were the people the shard was aimed at - and if you look arround you will see there is almost nobody who questions the quality of the PvP balance on Legacy 25!

bellend wrote: The staff issue wasnt smart you should have accepted applications and hired the most qualified out of the lot. I read on your site that uve only hired trusted people so im guessing that consists of IC which is no surprise since it looked like they were calling the shots before u shut it down.

If you took the efford to look up the advisors on the Legacy Forums (they had this title next to their Forum Name) you would know by now that the whole I-C favorism stuff is totally mid-tempo bullshit. Noxin was part of I-C on various shards - so its only natural they shared some views on PvP as well as experiences. Nevertheless Noxin listened to every valid argument, if it came from a respected person and not from a selfish egodriven idiot it would be more easyly geting attention - but that wasnt even a needed factor. People like Lego, Wofl, Oz and others who helped the shard, testing things and making suggestions and who had some influence due to their dedication to Legacy 25 are in no way related to I-C.
So it was everybodys own business to use his/her chance to make a difference - just some used it and others prefer to stay on the destructive side!
And Trust is a big need in qualification for a job like this - you can destroy far more by abusing trust on a shard like Legacy 25 than by a mistake in coding or akting as GM!

bellend wrote: The money problem.
Many told you that you will HAVE to give rewards for donations or people just wont do it. Its a fact wether u like it or not, people wont part with their money for no reason. After all its a free shard so people rly couldnt care if it goes down or not. Selling PVP Supplies such as kegs, mass regs etc will bring in a nice sum on money per month because people are very lazy.

Just because many say the same thing it dont have to be right! Noxin decided that people wont get rewards for donations. In my eyes this is the right thing to do. Its democratic and idealistic. Sure there are the selfish and eager people who wont donate then, but as i said - the shard wasn't aimed at them! And what about the 'people won't part with their money for no reason'-Argument? Dont you think that the advantage of playing a shard you really enjoy, wich is cared about etc is 'no reason'?
I know there are a lot of people who abuse social thoughts and mechanics for their own advantage, but thats no reason to delete all these systems. The people who dont are much more valuable than the ones who do, even if they may be a minority!

bellend wrote: The shards goal.
The shard was made to force pvp in nearly every situation making it a PVP shard. PVP shards will attract the most retarded,ignorant,childish people you will EVER meet. The people who enjoy hunting and pvping part-time are the people who will be showing more respect towards staff/the shard its self.

Well - i better not judge about the mental quality of Players who get attracted by PvP-Shards

On a sidenote though, my experiences on Europa/ felucca-side over the last few years draw a slightly different picture.

bellend wrote: Events.
They are needed to keep people busy and to give people somthing to look forward to.

Well - unfortunately none of the players seems to be willing or able to do an event. I myself had planned a combination of Tavern and Duel-Arena/ Meetingpoint. unfortunately i lacked the funds and the time to realise it.

bellend wrote: I said to my guild before i stopped playing last yr that this shard wont last past february if there isnt major changes and whats happened? exactly what i said would happen.

wow - youre really a genious - youre only wrong if you think that this would be a valid argument for your above statements (like - see - i was right - so i am always right).
But maybe you could tell me the numbers of the national lotterie of next week - but in PM please

bellend wrote: If you cannot handle what ive just wrote then maybe you should reconsider running a shard.

so this is ment as the ultimate guide how to run a freeshard? thats all? no alternatives? if you think so you may should reconsider playing another shard than the one you are playing - wont make a difference anyway.

bellend wrote: If the shard is reopened then i will check the shard out and consider playing again. A wipe will only make the people who didnt "own" the shard come back and try even harder. Somthin for you to consider.

try harder to grief it? to own it?i hope Noxin will understand this - i def. dont.

bellend wrote: -Tamer McTame

as you can see i checked your post out and considered to reply to it, even if it wasnt adressed to me. But since it was posted on a public board i didnt reconsider and just posted my reply.

kind regards

Crest

P.S. if you take 'bellend' as a german word it means barking - as in the saying 'Dogs that barks dont bite'

pain · Post by **pain** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 12:43 am

if he doesn't know what the english version means that makes it pretty damn hilarious.

Superfast Oz · Post by **Superfast Oz** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 12:58 pm

Sad to see you had to pull it down, the shard had a nice ruleset and such. Hope you get it running for ppl who really want to keep playing uo.

Personally I won't return, a character wipe makes that 100% certain. I can't stand doing spawns, and also that I'm losing interest in uo entirely lately.

bellend · Post by **bellend** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 6:26 pm

Crest it was fairly obvious my post was to noxin, so i wont be reading your reply.

Wow i guess superfast oz falls into the "faggot kids" section ive been hearing so much about because he wont return.

I do wish noxin all the best with his shard, if he is brave enuff to try again... Its just too bad ur surrounded by ball suckers with attitude/ego issues. Just remember shards rly dont get a 3rd chance.. so make it a good one second time round.

bellend · Post by **bellend** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 6:30 pm

pain wrote:if he doesn't know what the english version means that makes it pretty damn hilarious.

If your speaking to me, Im well aware of what a "bellend" is.

Heres an example.

Your dad pulled back my foreskin and ate the smegma on my bellend.

Villa · Post by **Villa** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 7:05 pm

He was so blatantly talking to Crest - what makes you think he was talking to you nobface ?

Crest Lavender · Post by **Crest Lavender** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 7:36 pm

bellend wrote:Crest it was fairly obvious my post was to noxin, so i wont be reading your reply.

*shrugs*
maybe you should have PMed him then, but i guess that would not have given you the attention you were looking for.
Well - at least i got mine now

And looking at your example of your understanding of the word 'bellend' i find it really amazing how you manage to destroy any seriousity or shadow of a decent reputation of yourself with ease.
Its like a politician holding a speech and desperately trying to sound serious and reasonable and immediately afterwards puts on a duncecap and running up and down the stage while giggeling like a madman.

Maybe you should try to learn some basic social communication skills before trying to argue about the running of a mmorpg-server!
The need to change identity to gain reputation again may be a small hint there.

This is not ment as an offence by the way - its just the rather arrogant comment of an old guy with some experiences as a socialworker.
But my hopes that this actually has any effect on you are quite low - but i still recommend you try to think about it for a moment if your ego allows.

regards

Crest

Future · Post by **Future** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 9:13 pm

Who gives fuck about anyones opinion.

He wasnt happy, cost was getting abit much so simple decision realy to end the shit causing him grief and money!

He didnt want to do it but RL > games

Now all of you go outside and live the dream!

My 2 cents!

bellend · Post by **bellend** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 9:49 pm

Do you rly think someone telling noxin their views on the shard will be taken seriously by the group of people who seem to think its their right to flame anything thats not what the like to hear?

After my first post i had the normal smart-ass 20+ year old children making comments, then you come along and make quotes followed by whitty lil smart-ass remarks.(Read ur post till the first remark then gave up.)

Can you explain to me what was wrong with me posting my views on the shard and how i thought it could be made better? You seem to think that your better than everyone else which gives you a right to down talk anyone you want? well sorry to break it to you but your just as bad as every other troll out there.

Villa · Post by **Villa** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 11:09 pm

Don't generalise.
Personally, I thought a couple of your points were good.

Indeed you are entitled to your opinions.
However, you need to remember that you've made your points on a publicly viewable forum, therefore expect people to disagree with your opinions as they are entitled to.

Baphomet · Post by **Baphomet** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 11:39 pm

How could anyone NOT make a "smartass comment" to someone called Bellend? I mean your posts do make you out to be a complete prick, but its nice of you to give people a clue before they even start reading. Fucktard.

bellend · Post by **bellend** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 11:53 pm

Does my username matter? because of what ive said it wouldnt make a diffrence.

Im sure ud be happy if you joined a shard, then offered help to try stop somthing from happening, but because of certain bigots you couldnt give the help and what you tried to stop happened anyway?

Villa what points did you like/dislike ill shed some light on them.

Noxin · Post by **Noxin** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 12:40 am

Ohhh, getting interesting now.

Voilehg · Post by **Voilehg** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 12:48 am

cba to write anything long and wise like others, but tbh the shard was good. it had big number of amazing things. it also had things that were not good, but nothing is perfect.

what drove me off was pretty much the fact that there was no challenge, i didnt feel like anyone was a threat, or hatred towards anyone, sure enough i didnt like most of the retarded americans (any of them, actually) but they didnt provide good pvp or a challenge, thus, i didnt care.... dunno

and the fact that i play guildwars pretty much at professional level

but if legacy ever comes back, i wont be starting over. the amount of time getting char + items is just too big in aos. if there is a way around this, then i will play.

good work 90% of things noxin

- super owner / freedom / conzpi / z z