Its official the tram alliance has grown!

[Phule]

PvP and allied stones = 170 chars, to fight at serverup..

Close, but not quite. As of 23FEB, 1:30am PST 09.30 GMT, there are 4 guilds to this alliance. Here is the break down:
PVP - 70
S|A - 51
BOP - 47
V--V - 23

This is a total of 191 characters as part of this alliance. Of course, Bud is planning on bringing over more people from h20 on legends... so I expect that this clusterfuck will continue to grow. Anyone who came to drachenfelse because it was nice, quite, and a cool place for small guilds...well... sorry to say it, but those days are probably over.

If you divide 191 characters by 5 characters per account, that's 39 different accounts (38.2, but i rounded up cuz you can't really have .2 of an account..). Some of these players have more than one character in the guild. Let's say each player has an average of 3 characters in the guild.. that's 64 different players, and if there are 2 characters per person, that's 96 different people....

So yeah... Seeing as how OMG has 114 characters total, and no allies, that's 23 different players/accounts if each player has 5 characters in the guild. That's roughly half of the amount of people you guys have, and you want to say you own us because we suck? How about because you guys have twice our number of people?

Now, as lizzy stated before, between her and her husband she has 5 or 6 accounts, which is 25-30 characters. Let's round down and say 20 characters are hers... That leaves 94 Characters, which, if there are 5 characters per account, that is 19 accounts/people total in OMG. Of course... not all of the characters listed in the OMG roster are active any more, so that drops our numbers down even more.

All in all it is hard not to get discouraged when you look at numbers like this, but don't fool yourself PVP/SA/v--v/Bop.... You guys aren't 'owning the shard' based on skill at all. I give credit where credit is due. Some of you guys are good at PVP, but for the most part, the people in this alliance that i've fought 1v1 are not as good as they think they are. I've killed you guys 1v1, and i've died to you 1v1, both on a mage and on a dexer character. I'm not the best in the guild, and if I can take you 1v1 on a regular basis, i'm sure the other, more skilled guys in the guild sure as hell can.

Unfortunately, all this talk is useless and pointless, and will not make an impression on anyone. Anyone who's read these threads has already made up their minds, and most people are probably just ignoring them alltogether. I can't say I really blame them.

[Mr Dir Dir]

They couldn't hack it on legends anymore because there was equal numbers against them.
GO TRAM ALLIANCE!

[blue]

alliances are pathetic.... if you need that many members to do a spawn...why not take your stupid little alliance to europa??? you could go 'own' AI maybe?? nah course not cos theyre too active there and they would fight equal numbers

so you lot come to a nice quiet shard where most people got on fine...yes we have our differences but since u lot came its been pathetic...does every red guild have ghosts at alters???

it wouldnt take u more than 10 mins to scout spawns manually but no...lets all be lame and place ghosts at every alter. lets take 50 reds to take over an oaks spawn...lets take as many people as we can to hold a harrower....funny thing is about it all that u lot can't even defend your own harrowers unless u bagball illegaly...bagballing was something new that i'd never seen before till I-C came to drachs...if they accidently blocked illegaly they apologised and corrected it...i remember a harry at covetous vividly for the huge fight we had and it was pure class......opposed to PVP! SlA V__V etc who do harrowers at like 4am just so they can blag scrolls??? ek does public harrowers..I-C do public harrowers...even -+- did one a while back and it was fun....you can hold a public harrower and have immense fun and still get lots of scrolls....i pvp'd most of -+-'s harrower and got a +15 stat scroll on my red at the end with lots of insurance...
private harrowers are ok sure and each to their own...but seriosuly do u expect that people will not say stuff about you when u slag them off...call them crap etc then do pathetic things like never hold a prime time harry and go on about how much gold the guild makes in a matter of months??? seriosuly stfu guys nobody cares about your bank balance i have only met 1 american player on drachs that hasn't bin a mouthpiece.....i think its time for you lot to step up or shut up...because what i've seen from most of you isn't impressive and the posts you make make me wanna die from the pain of laughing

[Fumin]

Biff u dont leave the gz how would u know what happens in dungeons?

[blue]

wow your funny aint ya.......if you played half as much as you gobbed off on forums your reds would be blue by now

[Angus]

Biff, I suggest you buy a keyboard with the following keys.

,,,,,, and .......

FULL STOP AND COMMAS.

Jesus, your such a moron.

[blue]

sticks and stones.

[Angus]

You still need to learn grammer son

[abbarosh]

BIFF WHEN YOU START PAYING MY SUBSCRIPTION TO UO THEN YOU CAN START GOBBING OFF ABOUT WHO I ALLIE MYSELF WITH AND HOW I PLAY THE GAME WHEN YOU ACTUALLY GET GOOD ENOUGH TO FIGHT ONE ON ONE THEN COME BACK AND TALK TO ME OTHERWISE SHUT THE FUCK UP AND CRAWL BACK UNDER THAT STONE YOU CAME FROM BEFORE I FIND OUT WHERE YOU LIVE AND COME AND BITCH SLAP YOU AROUND YOU SHIT TALKING FAG

BTW LOOK FOR ME LOVE ABBAROSH
AKA
Solid Iron heart
Gabrielslefteye
Athena

[abbarosh]

NOW THAT YOU OMG FUCK WITS HAVE GOTTEN ME STARTED WHY YOU WHINING ABOUT THIS ALLIANCE WHEN I HAVE AN OMG MEMBER TRYING TO GET V--V TO FORGET ABOUT AN ALLIANCE WITH ANYONE ELSE BUT THEM SO EVERYONE SHUT THE FUCK UP ITS JUST A GAME YOU DONT OWN IT SO GET OVER IT AND ENJOY THE KILLS

btw you all suck even if yuo are nice people

[Superfast Oz]

you created a char called athena?

[Phule]

You think their bagballs being illegal is bad, you should see how they block teleporters by dragging items. These chumps did a harrower the other night and got Cove 3... There are 8 teleporting tiles right in the entrace to cove three....they had 8 characters AT LEAST, one on each tile, casting wither immediately when anyone walked in... Then, following these 8 players illegaly blocking teleporter tiles, were bagballs up the wazoo, energy fields, and about 8 more players casting earthquate and chain lightning...

I got some really neat screenshots of this, and a great shot of Deadly Soul saying "This was officialy a trammy bitch defense but it worked."

The great thing is that I actually killed some of you guys INSIDE the dungeon with your leet defense...

Now, @ Gabrielslefteye/athena/solid iron heart
OMG is trying to get you to ally with us? That's news to me (but then again, I don't play but a few hours at night after school, and usually log in to find out about new alliances being made or broken...)...but...do you think that might have something to do with the fact that you guys (v--t + S|A + PVP! + Bop) out number us 2 to 1 or more?

I don't have a problem with the v--v guys. I've killed some of you before, and you've killed us. I do'nt know what you guys get out of this alliance, other than tons of green names...but my guess is that if PVP! does a harrower, the PVP! guys get the money. What does v--v get? 200k gold for defending? Oh..nice...

Now, when we were allied with Bop, and we did a harrower, we added up the value of all of the scrolls and then divided that money equally amongst all players who were there, whether or not they were OMG or Bop...everyone got an equal share, whether they were red, blue, purple, green, orange, or whatever. We work as a team, and every team member is equal and as such, every member gets an equal share.

No one is saying that we OWN UO, well, except for Bud... We don't really care who YOU ally with, but people just hate alliances with 200 people. Why not just all drop your guild tag and join one guild?

[abbarosh]

well in reply to that post V--V get nothing out of the alliance we have all of about 6 members and we just cruise around having a laugh has always been like this and always will be like this we have our own vent and our own UOAM server so we dont know what PVP are upto or any of the other guilds in the alliance I just wish that you guys would stop bitching at each other both of your guils have at least 2 good PVPers but the rest of you suck unless you are in gank mode and before you try to come back with the v--v are not great and gank alot YES we do but we have never bitched about any other guild on someone else's forums and continued having a pissing match when we have been asked to stop WE dont shittalk (thinks) well sadiq does a lil but he is foreign lol. I just think you should bitch about eachother on a site that people would go to if they wanted to lisen to you all big yaselfs up I swear to god If I meet half of you I bet I would be looking at 16 or 17 year olds and btw before you come back with the I bet your young too I am 26 married and have a baby due in two weeks so stop dripping about meaningless shit and crack on and play the game

[Fizban]

:Gives Gabriel a hug: im 21 and u and everyone need to settle!!! lol gg guys and I want to be boards hero ::pulls out swords:: En garde!

[Fizban]

:Gives Gabriel a hug: im 21 and u and everyone need to settle!!! lol gg guys and I want to be boards hero ::pulls out swords:: En garde!