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well has it hit yet?

thoughts etc....

Yep it hit this morning.

So far.. lizardmen are red..

That's about it.

AoS is still here

I think I'm going to make a thread to stratics about bleed. Think about it how overpowered it is, average 20 mana and how much damage/disturbs it does ?

mention strangle whilst you are there please thats much worse imo

Nixon wrote:AoS is still here

fuck

Oh and Amber bleed is much worse than strangle, strangle takes a lot of skill points to be used, whereas bleed just needs a weaponskill.

Aye, I could bear bleed if it required HIGH anatomy / tactics but jesus its only a wepskill. Its not in balance with anything, ridiculos. Strangle is powerful too but it can be countered with 40-50 skillpoints where it requires 200+ skillpoints

I dont know why bleed has gotten away from the nerf stick for fat too long, it has been a total joke ever since AoS.

Voilehg wrote:Aye, I could bear bleed if it required HIGH anatomy / tactics but jesus its only a wepskill. Its not in balance with anything, ridiculos. Strangle is powerful too but it can be countered with 40-50 skillpoints where it requires 200+ skillpoints

how do you counter strangle on a red? I thought chiv was only for noble warriors (was thinking of remove curse)

and I hear your point regarding bleed, whilst I use it, I certainly dont rely on it

..Err just keep your karma up ?

Tbh I dont even need to get chiv I dont see strangle that bad problem but bleed is ridiculous, 95% of this shard RELIES on it would be much funnier to get some other fights then those permableeders...aka THERISTIS, whine about shittalk when I try to fight alone against 3 guys and none has the guts to die in that situation =/

And FUCK wrestling it still does 0 dmg hits....

how much chiv do I need then

try fighting any of the cashies without weps in their hands, they crack me up, I might use a wep but I will sure as hell not off screen if I am disarmed, natas and co run to baja the second you remove their duped val runic made weps.

Bleed can be countered by bandages

like 40-50 chiv for remove curse to success more then enough

seriously its impossible to fight in DF without pots =) fireball 50 warfork sweeet skill [/cry]

Every special in the game is overpowered, if you think about it, its the only thing that unbalances any form of pvp.

Boost dexer damage slightly - as without specials they would be seriously nerfed, but take away specials.

Any real pvper does not rely on specials for victories.

I agree with you Freedom, its ridiculous that people can't fight without specials

I dont think every special is overpowered... But the system needs somekinda tweaking.