*knock knock*

Villa · Post by **Villa** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 1:20 am

Black Lotus [omg] "LOL how did your IC harrower go today lol ?"

Nixon · Post by **Nixon** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 2:38 am

Noxin and I are diff people

Noxin · Post by **Noxin** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 2:57 am

Why lie?

zole · Post by **zole** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 3:06 am

im confused as to whats going on now, but prime time harrowers are done so that shard stays active and has fights.
there was a harrower this morning actually, by omg.
over 10 reds, over 10 blues killing it. and it was at 6am gmt.
do you think they care about fun fights or mabye just scrolls?

Nixon · Post by **Nixon** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 3:11 am

And we dont have to recruit half the shard to win a harrower...

blue · Post by **blue** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 3:57 pm

nixon you don't 'win' a harrower. you slaughter it and hopefully come out with a reward. what some of us don't like is stuff like the blocking with walls etc. because this takes the fun out of a fun event. nobody is moaning about the fact pk's come and start killing. its fel! but what we were complaining about was the bagballs and walls. yes bagballs may be classed as 'legal' when there is a path through them. but villa admitted for a time there was no path. that is the point we moaned at and like i said the walls from joe(eve) and others in that guild. having fun killing people is fair enough but taking away other peoples fun isn't. this is the point me and weev were making in that thread.

DanJ · Post by **DanJ** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 4:03 pm

I think Villa is wrong if he did indeed say there was no path through. Toki, I and a couple of others usually place the bagballs and we do so to create a confusing path through however we know the rules and would always ensure that there is a path through (not least for falling back). We will of course block the free tiles with walls because there is no way we could take on the 100+ people that turned up at last nights harrower without using them to split up the pack of blues and slowing them down.

I imagine you've never tried to defend 10 reds vs 100+ charging blues to make such a comment, just think of a steam roller effect, all we try to do is put up a few walls to slow the steam roller down, eventually a powerful enough steam roller will break through, if they know how.

Nixon · Post by **Nixon** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 4:07 pm

My comment wasn't even directed at you Biff. It was at OMG who destroyed a lot of the small guilds here, some of whom joined OMG purely for one reason

WildCat · Post by **WildCat** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 4:13 pm

DanJ he means one of the times in Covetous, but that was fixed in 5 minutes

DanJ · Post by **DanJ** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 4:17 pm

Ahh, sorry didn't realise. I don't remember three weeks back, I barely remember what I had for breakfast!

Post by **Benn** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 4:19 pm

blue wrote:nixon you don't 'win' a harrower. you slaughter it and hopefully come out with a reward. what some of us don't like is stuff like the blocking with walls etc. because this takes the fun out of a fun event. nobody is moaning about the fact pk's come and start killing. its fel! but what we were complaining about was the bagballs and walls. yes bagballs may be classed as 'legal' when there is a path through them. but villa admitted for a time there was no path. that is the point we moaned at and like i said the walls from joe(eve) and others in that guild. having fun killing people is fair enough but taking away other peoples fun isn't. this is the point me and weev were making in that thread.

The walls may be different, but complaining that we spawn a harrower, you come to it and then don't enjoy yourself... well, not really our fault is it?

Not exactly 'taking away' your fun.

If there's ever no path through bagballs, it's completely by accident. The bagballs are there entirely because there's at most ever 15 reds, usually a lot less. And you've seen how many blues we try to fight. Seriously, it's not like we're taking anything away, nor are we even fighting in the most 'gimpy' way we can. Just enjoy the fights you get that wouldn't be there otherwise...

blue · Post by **blue** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 4:30 pm

i never came to your harry so didn't have fun cos i wasn't online

Post by **Buster** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 6:57 pm

blue wrote:what some of us don't like is stuff like the blocking with walls etc. because this takes the fun out of a fun event.

I had fun ( even though i died many times ) and i heard many others in the guild say taht was more fun than others times where we have held the harrower at another dungeon and not lost ground at all.

You didn`t have fun? Tough, i don`t play for your ammusement, i play for mine and that of my friends ( which doesn`t include you )

In the same way i`m sure my enjoyment of the game comes very low down your list of priorities, but you don`t see me crying about it do you?

blue · Post by **blue** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 8:19 pm

other peoples enjoyment i do care about...yeah i shittlk, occasionally rezkill those who deserve it....but i don't go out thinking oh i don't care about anyone elses game but my own. if uo was free i couldnt care less about anybody else...but seeings as people pay for it they have a right to play seriously and not have fun ruined and there game ruined. you gotta remember buster that there are other people otherside of their screens who will eventually decided enough is enough and leave either the shard or game. i have seen too many fel players leave uo for the fact 'my game has been ruined'. and if u look back far enough on stratics etc you will see this is mainly for people doing minor stuff like walling tents at harries etc...and eventually those little things add up and people just think why the hell should i pay for a game im not enjoying?? people cause this. i would not like to annoy any of you guys so u stop playing...so i expect the same treatment back. otherwise the game just turns itself into self centred and a 'who gives a carp about you' sorta game.

Post by **Buster** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 8:55 pm

The thing is, that argument is a contradiction.

You ask that people who pay for UO should be able to play how they want, yet say we arn`t allowed to play how we want to.

Which is it to be? Do we play how we want to ( which is our right as fee paying customers acording to you ) or how you want us to, which means you are ruining our fun.

I really don`t see how both are possible.